As far as I'm concerned, the sooner the church, any church, is totally barred as an organisation from having any influence on national (particularly political) matters whatever, the cleaner will be the air we breathe.

Absolutely agreed, Jim. Here in England I think we have it. Well, I hope so anyway. Ireland is getting there. What about Iran, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan etc. etc.? That is part of the point I am trying to make. When those authorities unite in getting rid of the interference of the church in their politics then we can eliminate the religious labels applied to them. But they will not. They will continue harbouring criminals and murderers that have committed their crimes in the name of their faith. The other part of the point is that the churches that these people claim to represent - notice I do say claim - need to be seen to act. Not just declare their abhorrence. When the half million (the figure you quote) peaceful Moslems are seen to be acting by, possibly, providing the civil authorities information on radical factions, then there will be no good reason for anyone to promote anti-Moslem feelings. It is no longer enough to sit back and say sorry but it is out of my hands.

Cheers

DtG