Interesting idea Leadfingers Ill ask Martha if thats something they go for . If so I could put up some old ones for the fun of it as well .Ive done a batch of them over the years . . She has been selling some clips in her gadening section of a thing here in the USA called K_Mart but I think her relationship with that store is over for now. While she is selling clips I dont think she would like me giving them away on YT . Thanks to all my old friends who have stopped in . Yours Guy